Set of high DR domains (mainly in the 40's / 50's)

People trying to cash in on this by listing just about any domain they can find - the scarcity of the domains is what interests these buyers - when they only have a few domains to choose from, price goes up.

Denys/Rob would be smarter to limit the amount people can list and take the cash for themselves :)
I wholeheartedly agree. That is why DL's SEO queue (for below or average submissions) goes six months back =) Most of those domains are now experiencing a re-birth. Was a great move in a hindsight ;) I am always about quality, not quantity. It's a pity UKBO dumps everything on the market asap.

The amount of domains listed competing for around 40-50 places in the SERPs seems to be too much
Yes, but there are plenty of other niches/keywords to target. It's not only gambling, which ranks well. The buyers just need to get a bit more creative.
 
Yes, but there are plenty of other niches/keywords to target. It's not only gambling, which ranks well. The buyers just need to get a bit more creative.
Maybe not, but the market is not competitive right now for anyone outside of gambling, or other high risk affiliate verticals to compete with the prices the buyers are currently paying, however with such a large dump of domains onto the market now - the price seems to be settling a little. If it is a slow day, I'm sure the one motivated buyer will do his best to get the name he NEEEDs, however with lots of choice - prices go down. Simple supply and demand.

I also think that once the other buy (who wins very little) decides to different TLDs or other ccTLD that rank in the UK (like .eu - as is evident from the SERPs), the prices collapses as the competition is now gone - and the main buyer takes all the domains and pays a slight premium to what they were.

The company behind it was very invested in a different type of SEO, which has recently had a resurgence also in the past few weeks - sponsored posts/parasite SEO, which could end up taking more of their budget also. I think them buying these domains is nothing more than a test, their site went to shit in December and they are scrambling to get results - they have a history of it.
 
I've not been following what is going on closely and to be honest I don't have the faintest idea.

So who are the bidders likey to be that are bidding on a domain like panos org uk and why?

Looks like my previous strategy of buying high quality domains like Flights.co.uk was a bit misplaced :ROFLMAO:
 
Its only 3 pages, if you read this thread the why's are explained.
 
Maybe not, but the market is not competitive right now for anyone outside of gambling, or other high risk affiliate verticals to compete with the prices the buyers are currently paying, however with such a large dump of domains onto the market now - the price seems to be settling a little. If it is a slow day, I'm sure the one motivated buyer will do his best to get the name he NEEEDs, however with lots of choice - prices go down. Simple supply and demand.

The prices aren't settling, look at today and yesterday- many more thousands being blown on domains that would be bordering on worthless before all this started. He's done in £15k on DL this afternoon, and another £2.5k on ukba tonight. £12k on a single domain yesterday, and a couple more £2k ones that you couldn't have got £50 for each 3 months ago. Plus edit im not gonna comment on anything in the future, only the past, my bad.
 
The prices aren't settling, look at today and yesterday- many more thousands being blown on domains that would be bordering on worthless before all this started. He's done in £15k on DL this afternoon, and another £2.5k on ukba tonight. £12k on a single domain yesterday, and a couple more £2k ones that you couldn't have got £50 for each 3 months ago. Plus edit im not gonna comment on anything in the future, only the past, my bad.
They are though, not settling to what they were previously, but I saw a lot of domains sell for between 55-150 today on UKB.

Regardless, once one of the two whales go, the prices go back to what they were previously - maybe 100% more whilst the dust settles. This is just two bidders really, one of them specifically making the prices explode as they refuse to backdown - however once they move on, the game is up.
 
It wasn't £2.5k tonight - it was £8k+ , can't be bothered adding them all up exactly.

So the prices definitely aren't calming down, if anything they're getting worse (or better if you're a seller which most on here will be :D :D )

Its definitely time to offload anything remotely sellable, as fast as you can.
 
Regardless, once one of the two whales go, the prices go back to what they were previously - maybe 100% more whilst the dust settles. This is just two bidders really, one of them specifically making the prices explode as they refuse to backdown - however once they move on, the game is up.
It just doesnt looks sustainable in any way - cashflow, seo , etc etc.

This bubble is surely going to pop asap.
 
It just doesnt looks sustainable in any way - cashflow, seo , etc etc.

This bubble is surely going to pop asap.
They'll have the cash flow, but probably just not from this project - media buyers spending millions a day isn't unheard of, in the hopes of making a return over n months.
 
It's happening.
I posted this in Nominet Community forum first and it promptly generated a strong response from the community. Nominet said they are "preparing to address it". They initially emailed me today to notify that this new re-registration was again suspended and requested a) to confirm how the domain will be used; b) to verify myself with a selfie..etc. In a few hours they have rationally acknowledged it is no longer necessary "as they know the registrant" and domain was re-activated ✊

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Okay, here is an example of a domain and the baffling reason Nominet has suspended it:

999callfornhs.org.uk

My name is X X and I am reaching out from Nominet's Compliance
team with regards to the 999callfornhs.org.uk domain name.

I can see that you're one of our registrars and have picked up the
domain name once it was cancelled by the previous registrant.

We have added a suspension onto the domain after discussions with Law
Enforcement as there is a very high risk to life if the registration
were to get into the hands of a third party. The risk of someone
mimicking the genuine 999 service which could ultimately put lives at
risk is too great for the domain to be active.

The previous registrant was good enough to keep it suspended until it
was cancelled and I would kindly ask if you could do the same.

I can see it is currently up for auction, but again there is a high risk
of someone buying it and then impersonating the 999 service.

Therefore the domain will remain suspended on our database. It is newly
registered, so you could look to delete the registration from your end
if you so wished.

If you do plan to delete the domain please can you let us know so we can
be ready for any re-registration.

I hope you can understand our concerns with the domain and appreciate
you working with us to protect the .uk namespace.

This domain was originally registered by my client, who agreed to delete it to avoid any confrontation. However, I re-registered it immediately (apologies, Nominet) because this claim is utterly farcical and must be challenged.

“999 Call for NHS” was a website dedicated to a campaign against the privatisation of the NHS:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220813031757/https://www.999callfornhs.org.uk/ 2
https://web.archive.org/web/20220808164814/https://www.999callfornhs.org.uk/HOMEPAGE2020 2

How would anyone experiencing a “risk to life” even end up on this website? And what would they expect to find there? Searching for a phone number to reach the NHS? Heck - this is already in the name. Need to reach NHS? Call 999.

Perhaps a visitor, in the middle of a life-threatening situation, expects to find an online emergency booking system on this website instead of calling 999? Sorry, that doesn’t exist—even on nhs.uk. Need to reach the NHS? Call 999.

As for Nominet’s claim of someone attempting to “impersonate the NHS”—completely bogus. To the best of my knowledge, there’s no profit in impersonating the NHS. (Unless, of course, a qualified doctor wants to impersonate the NHS and offer better service? Hmm…)

Let’s consider how anyone might even land on this website. What search queries would lead them there? “NHS phone number”? “NHS 999”? Would Google—or any search engine—rank this website in the top results for these searches? Absolutely not.

The only way someone might end up here is through its historical links, perhaps while reading about or researching the non-profit group it represented. Articles like this one highlight its former purpose:
'Jarrow March' ends in pro-NHS rally in London - BBC News 1.

Nominet issuing a suspension notice on such dubious grounds is absurd. They don’t even consult the registrant about their plans for the domain. What if I was a member of the original group and wanted to restore its website for historical or sentimental reasons? How would that be illegal or a “risk to life,” given that the site was never about the NHS emergency hotline in the first place?

Maybe my intentions are commercial. Suppose I restore the original content and sell a couple of links in the footer. If Nominet creates a precedent for suspensions like this and such actions go unchallenged, we risk seeing frivolous preemptive suspensions of domains merely for hypothetical misuse.

Nominet cooperates with about a dozen government agencies, which often lack understanding of what domains represent and how they’re used. Someone in one of these agencies must think that “999callfornhs” is equivalent to blocking a phone number like “1-999-CALL-FOR-NHS,” imagining it’s a real emergency support line.

It’s unacceptable for the registry to accept unverified claims without proper validation or a court order. Actions like this set a dangerous precedent and completely undermines trust and accountability.

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Okay, here is an example of a domain and the baffling reason Nominet has suspended it:

999callfornhs.org.uk


I have just posted the below on the nom community thread about this topic - https://community.nominet.uk/t/possible-domain-suspension-issues/2288/24 which has further details from other members .



If NHS is the string of concern then IMHO there is even more of a leap to then decide that having '999' in the domain would create a 'very high risk to life' if an unknown third party may get hold of it - specifically a 'high risk' via auction, and a specific use case of mimicking the 999 telephony service.

I am all for sensible comms and use of goodwill, but currently this feels to me like dressed up overreach, using direct contacts like the above to avoid interacting with formal policy.

Who is driving it, and why?

(Also, one for the UKRAC to pick up and AOB?)
 
Who is driving it, and why?
In my personal opinion ….

During COVID-19 Nominet had to be seen to be doing something about COVID names as did the rest of the ICANN community. Then recent national security threats (wars) have increased the desire to protect government departments with PDNS.

According one CEO email Nominet won ‘a recent tender to provide DNS services to support the NHS digital estate for the next three years’. I suspect “NHS” has become a string worthy of Nominet watching in new registrations?
(Also, one for the UKRAC to pick up and AOB?)
Domain Abuse has been added to the UKRAC agenda for 29th January. Both at the request of nominet (who has a paper) and by the UKRAC asking questions about recent posts.
 
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Domain Abuse has been added to the UKRAC agenda for 29th January. Both at the request of nominet (who has a paper) and by the UKRAC asking questions about recent posts.
Good to hear - who titled it 'domain abuse', could it be abuse of policy ? 😃

I mean, how can someone who may not exist partake in a hypothetical auction and then the non-existent entity hypothetically does something with a domain... and Nom + co think thats a threat to a hypothetical person's life... affect the current registrant's agreements?!
 
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Good to hear - who titled it 'domain abuse', could it be abuse of policy ? 😃

There is an item on the agenda

There is an item on the agenda “Domain Name suspension after being flagged shortly after registration” from the UKRAC
 
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Putting aside the obvious absurdities of "a very high risk to life" and a telephone number being confused with a website, it would seem that the problem is one or both of the strings "NHS" and "999", and not the SEO score of the domain.

If that's the case, surely it would be a simple matter to programmatically block the registration of any domain containing those strings, or at least put the registration on automatic hold subject to human approval.

So why haven't Nominet done that long ago? What's the average salary of their staff again?
 
Putting aside the obvious absurdities of "a very high risk to life" and a telephone number being confused with a website, it would seem that the problem is one or both of the strings "NHS" and "999", and not the SEO score of the domain.

If that's the case, surely it would be a simple matter to programmatically block the registration of any domain containing those strings, or at least put the registration on automatic hold subject to human approval.

So why haven't Nominet done that long ago? What's the average salary of their staff again?
I had one suspended for possible phishing which had the brand name of a phone provider.

This was risk of being used as fraud, but I think it is the same system, just didn't reasoning.
 
I wonder if they're gonna say there is risk to life on commissiononassisteddying.co.uk
 
I wonder if they're gonna say there is risk to life on commissiononassisteddying.co.uk
I think Chairman Starmer is pro that as it helps remove paying some pensions, the winner should put a site up about how to do it, and they'll probably be able to tap into some government funding.
 
I wonder if they're gonna say there is risk to life on commissiononassisteddying.co.uk
Another bargain at £5001.

The mind boggles at the amount of money there must be in online gambling.
 
The prices keep creeping up.... Hit the £27k mark today
 
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